Transcript 2012-08-26

Menat – Channelled by Deborah Ackroyd – 2012-08-26

This transcript is available for download as a PDF file here.
(First session with voice recognition technology for live transcript – experiment/calibration. Verbatim transcript.)

Note: ‘…’ indicates a moderate-to-long pause in speech or extensive repeating of same words, not missing words or meaning. Brief responses from group members are in parenthesis. Ambient/group/inaudible parts and clarifying commentary in square brackets [ ]. Uncertain speech in curly brackets { }.

Preamble:

Deborah:
So, um, we’ll see how this goes, ‘cos I don’t know how it’s gonna affect things with me – I’m just gonna have to get used to this. We’re all gonna have to get used to it, so we’ll suck it and see.

Alright then. Shall we, uh… gather the energy… …

OK, so if we could just all focus on just coming together the way we always do…
And today, let’s just affirm that, that circle of gold light that we place ourselves in; moving into a sphere, filling that sphere with Universal Energy – the energy of pure, unconditional love… from which all life flows whether it realises it or not…

And let us also connect today to… is it Worcestershire Beacon we were on yesterday? – (Yes) Yes, to that little spot there, now you don’t know where we had our picnic, but it doesn’t matter, me and Rick do… Connecting to the… energies there and the connection we made there. And then also to that spot by Claire’s house which none of us have actually visited yet except Claire… but she knows where it is and we’ve linked to that spot before…

And linking the energy through to this house and then through to Bredon Hill. Now I’ve no idea why we’re being asked to do that today, ‘cos we’ve never done it before but we are… And to Eckington church where we have already found a little portal, which we’ve been told not to touch, so we’re not touchin’ it. We’re just… connecting to it.

…And let’s just invite in all our friends and helpers on the inside…
…And then just focusing on raising the energy and inviting Menat in to join us, and whoever else wants to join us… And then when you’re ready, you can just open your eyes and I’ll… let this deepen, and bring Menat in… …

Menat:
Good afternoon! (Good afternoon!) So we’re conducting an interesting experiment on a – a number of different levels today. And first of all we have the technological experiment and since I am renowned for messing up electronic equipment this could be quite interesting… And also we have, uh, connected with some Earth energies in a way that we have not consciously done so before, for this kind of, uh, exercise… And also we have, we have a gathering of interested parties… so if I lapse into talking about ‘we’ then you know there is more than me communicating. Yes?

Uh, for some time, we, uh, me and the one through whom I speak, we have been aware of engaging with many other energies, but one in particular that we have been working to establish, uh, an anchorage for, is that’s that we have named Cosmos, which is in itself a collective energy. Uh, Cosmos is a collective signature for the universal humanities. And in actual fact, Rick, when you were doing your attunement yesterday, and when you were tuning in and building towards this, this walk that you called Star Being, in your own way, this is the energy you were inviting in – yes? Does this make sense to you? (Yes.)

Now, today we want to begin to introduce a topic to you, which we will talk about more – indeed, we have a talk lined up for the group in Malvern in which we are going to specifically talk about this topic again. And what I’d like to introduce you to today is what we will call the Aquarian Void.

Now, as you all know, when any cycle reaches its end, there is a pause… Ah, a void… before the new cycle can be set in motion. Yes? So if a – when a pend– we think of a massive pendulum swinging, it will take a deep arc and as it reaches its height, it will pause before it begins to swing the other way. Yes? And, and so it is with, with the small cycles of night to day, of hour to hour, of season to season, of year to year. Um, we pause the height of the cycle of the Sun at the Summer equinox and then we pause again at the Winter equinox [meant Solstice x 2! – Menat naturally corrected below]. These are the two positions where, if you like, that energy pauses before it begins to go back in the other direction, yes? But, but, but, there are cycles within cycles within cycles, within, within, uh, each of us as individuals, within our communities, within the planet, within the solar system, within the galaxy – cycles, in fact, within the entire cosmos.

And… we are currently poised at the cusp between the Piscean cycle – what human beings have named the Piscean cycle – and what they name the next cycle, or the Aquarian cycle. And so, at this point, we’ve been, we’ve been approaching the void for some time and in fact, in terms of, uh, these, these massive, um, astrological cycles, um this, this partic– the void between the two cycles probably lasts in total about 200 years.

But…there is a precise point of power for humanity within this cycle… between 2012 and 2014. Between the Winter solstice of 2012 and the Winter solstice of 2014.

A void where human beings can engage – the humanity of this planet and the, the universal humanities working with humankind – can take this opportunity to utilise this void, because the void is where the new beginning is created. Yes? And at this point in human evolution, human beings have the opportunity to consciously choose what comes out of that void, in terms of their movement forwards; at this point in their history. Does this make sense to you?

So over this next two years, this is the most potent place, the most potent point, in which the human psyche and human consciousness can take ownership and acknowledgement of this void-point, and those of you who, um… are ‘on the pulse’ can consciously choose to help design and {re-} … vision the future for this humanity. Yes?

So, over this next two-year period… when you do your gatherings for the, uh, the solstices and the equinoxes, I want you to expand what you are doing. Until now, you’ve been working to create cohesion and integration within the group energy and you have achieved that very well.

From this point forward, what I want you to do is, I want the whole group to proxy for the whole of humankind and the whole planetary sphere. Now, you’re used to one individual proxying for the group. What I want you to do now is I want the group to proxy for this entire Earthly humanity. Yes? Now, this might sound far-fetched. This might sound ludicrous and ridiculous. You may think ‘what can this tiny group of people do for the whole of humankind?’ Well, if enough groups of you on this planet are doing the same thing, you can make a significant difference. And, if nothing else, you can depart this life, saying, well at least we tried – yes? So this is, this is what I want you to do.

When you come together at these particular points in the cycle of this hemisphere, which have significance for the human psyche, and for the collective psyche, then I want the whole group to proxy for the whole human race, and this entire biosphere.
Because we have the opportunity, throughout this next two year period, to magnify the power of such a working through consciously acknowledging the Aquarian Void. Yes? Am I making sense? (Yes)

And for these particular workings, um, I would like any of you here present, who would like to join us, to join us. So, so hitherto, these particular workings have been reserved for the group that have been meeting for so many years, but if others of a like mind would like to join in for these workings, then I would like the group to be open to them as well. Yes?

Now, I trust that the group, the established group, will be okay with this. If not, then we will work on this. Um, I’m, I’m landing this on the entire group today so I will, um, I will invite, um, a discussion of this at the next established group meeting, but I honestly and sincerely feel that no one will have a problem with this; because I think you’ve all done sufficient work to be able to, um, take that on board and work with it.

So… this void-point… is not just about this humanity… but what this humanity has an opportunity to do is to use it to raise their consciousness to meet the universal humanities. Because truly, this is what, this is what you were designed for. This humanity were designed to be vessels for universal consciousness. The fact that other influences have attempted to subverse [sic] that and to… um… enslave human beings for designs of their own. That, that is not what your original and true purpose was designed for.

So, much of, much of what we will be doing is helping, uh, the rest of humanity to, to begin to wake up to their true nature. To begin to wake up and be, be drawn into that which we are already in alignment with. Yes?

So have we any questions at this point?

Tony:
Yes, a couple. First of all, the Aquarian Void – is it that two years between December 2012 and December 2014, ‘cos you mentioned two hundred years?

Menat:
Yes, the whole… the whole ‘void time,’ if you like, is probably about 200 years.

T: – But for 2 years…

Menat:
But, there is a 2 year window of opportunity –

T: – Right, so this is where you are asking us to give ourselves as proxy for humanity.

Menat:
To, to, to truly, uh, offer yourselves in service to the whole of this humanity.

T:
The second thing I want to say is, I’m at an age where I could die a million times, OK? Um, and I have been– and I have no problem with that, by the way, except when it happens, I suppose. Um, it’s just that I have been wondering what final use I can be, um, and I think you’re answering this. It’s a choice and it’s an offering, and I like it very much.

Menat:
Well, I’m very, very glad about that! At last!

T: – [Laughs] – At last.

Menat:
You can– at last, something you can grasp to say, “Oh, yes, I was of some use.” Because, of course, your entire life has been one of service, yet you completely fail to recognise that.

T:
Well… maybe, but the, um, uh, but this is, this is… defined. I can recognise it, I can identify with it; it doesn’t seem too massive a thing to do, because, uh, a group of us– the other thing I wanted to say is that, are you, personally, giving this message to other groups?

Menat:
-Not me, personally, but the… that of which I am an agent will certainly be delivering very s- messages along very similar lines, given the, um, cultural and contextual framework within which other groupings of human beings are working.

T: – So other groups will be getting the same message, basically-

Menat:
Yes, they will-,

T: – OK, thank you.

Menat:
-I hope-,

T: – Well, so do I, but, uh-

Menat:
– Well, that is the plan.

T: – [Laughs] OK.

Menat:
And you may be surprised. You may make it to the end of this… It might keep you going! You are a very stubborn creature.

T: – [Concurs] Yes, there is [inaudible]. Anyway, thank you, Menat, very much.

Menat:
I would prefer to stay tenacious –

T: – Oh, alright [laughs].

Menat:
-Because you have… stuck at something… absolutely rigorously faithfully, and you have never wavered-

T: – But I’ve never been sure what that something is-

Menat:
-But you’re not sure what that something is. Hopefully, before you slip this mortal coil, uh… we can make you aware of that.

T: -It sounds very satisfying. Thank you.

Menat:
Good. Anyone else, please…
…Have I stunned you? [Few seconds, unrecorded, possibly nothing…]
I don’t believe it.

Claire:
Yeah, I was wondering whether the work was going to take the same format; or whether we were going to be more getting in tune with the landscape and the energies that are around us in the landscape.

Menat:
Well… Certainly that is, that is the thing that we have begun to do in a number of ways.

Certainly, when, uh, when I spoke with Rick… uh, he was, he was wanting to do more work with the landscape and, and I invited him to have more fun with it, and he came up with the idea of a picnic, which somewhere along the line, he evolved into a whole Summer of picnics – which, which has been marvellous. And, uh, and I know that he will continue to engage with the landscape in the way that he does because this is his path, this is his way. And, uh, I would encourage you all, as and when you can, to, um, if it feels right and appropriate, and like something you want to do, to tag along with him for the ride; because it is important that we begin to engage with, with the landscape, with the Earth, in a more visceral and direct way.

But, but, but none of this must be forced. Yes? These are invitations. I don’t want anyone doing anything unless all parts of them say “Yes, I want to do it.” Yes? Uh, I don’t want anybody to be doing anything because they feel obliged, or coerced, or forced – this is, this will be entirely counter-productive to, to, um, the intention that we are wanting to set. Which is, that it is perfectly okay for each person to be free to listen to themselves, make the decisions and judgement based on their own internal dialogue. To become their own authority. Yes?

And, and so, this is the place I want you to be coming at all of these things from. So, so we are, we are simply creating openings and we are issuing invitations. Yes?

But, but the principle and most important thing that you need to be bringing with you is willingness and joy, yes? If you can’t go willingly and joyfully, don’t do it. Okay? And this, this really is, is again a message we’re going to be repeating again and again over this next two-year period.

If you can’t do it willingly and joyfully, you need to sit down and think very carefully about what’s driving you. Yes? And where your intention is coming from. Because if we can’t do it willingly and joyfully, invariably there is some kind of fear… lurking in the basement. Yes? Can you get that, can you grasp that? Does that make sense to you? And… the void we’ve entered is, is about the transition from a pyramidal fear-based tyranny to a circular, uh, cooperative, um, each individual seated in their own authority… paradigm. Yes?

Now, this is, this is a very different thing and not, not all of humanity is going to be able to step into this all at once. But what is crucial is that groups can come together in this way, create these circles all over the planet and begin to hold this new paradigm, this new… way.

So that you can begin to be beacons that can draw the humanity that is still labouring under this tyranny… into your circles of light… and freedom and liberation and realisation. Yes?

And they may come and go and come and go and come and go, because freedom is a terrifying thing… But, we have stepped into that freedom and so we calmly and gently and surely, simply hold that space. Yes?

Tony:
Can I ask a question?

Menat:
Yes.

T: [When] this transcription comes out, will it be appropriate for me to send it to, say, maybe one or two or three friends in the world?

Menat:
If this transcription comes out, you are now free to send it to whoever you wish.

T: -Right, ‘cos- To people I think who would quite possibly be stimulated to follow this, in groups and stuff.

Menat:
No, for a- all of you. If- this is the point now, this is the purpose. This is the place that, that we have reached – whereby the energy of this one through who we speak and the energy of the entire group has reached sufficient stability and integrity for us to disseminate this outwards, in a constructive and productive and beautiful way.

Yes? In other words, the …unconscious patterns, if you like, that may have set up an undertow that could have attracted difficulties and dissent and disharmony, these are now sufficiently stable for us to feel we can begin to move this out in a way which will simply be a joy and delight, for all involved. Yes?

Because let’s be away with all the crisis and the drama and the upheaval and the fear mongering. Let’s be done with that. We want, we want … now this flower to unfold, within you as individuals and within anybody else who wishes to step in to this which we have openly offered. Yes? And, and use it as they will. Let them take what works for them, what resonates with them. We don’t deliver this in any way as any kind of absolute truth; that we are seated in absolute truth – that is not translatable into language at this point. There will always be, uh, differences when it comes to language but the impulse remains the same, yes?

Because truly until you, until you can all actually connect telepathically, then the truth of your souls has to be translated through words. Yes? And so, so what I’m saying is that… those of you who’ve chosen to gather around this impulse have now reached a level of trust with each other that is truly beautiful… And is a big leap forwards towards the restoration of your true heritage; as the human beings that you were designed to be. Does this make any kind of sense?

Are there any other questions?

Rick – you must have a question, I shall be sad and disappointed!
[Laughter]

Rick:
Um, well I’d sort of answered it for myself, really. I was kind of going, ‘Ah, next two years then, so proxying in, um, when we’re doing, um… gathering, when we’re doing, not drama, but,um, sacred.. thingy, and how does that carry on during the sort of the rest of the week?.. Well, I expect it does. So that we engage in proxy for humanity in our, um, the sacred events but then it actually, it’s not something you put down; once you’ve picked it up, it carries on.

Menat:
Indeed not! Indeed not. Indeed, one, one can make the decision that that is what one is doing, um, all the time. One, one is choosing to be that, um, which one, which one envisages the whole of humanity to be. Yes? And again, this is, this is a… this is not a new idea or concept to all of your great enlightened teachers – um, have always said this:  “Walk your talk.” Yes? Be, be the person you expect others to be, yes? Embody that vision as best you can.

Rick:
And that is a stepping stone…

Menat:
And take that, take that through every area of life. Through the checkout at Sainsbury’s. Yes? As you drive your taxi. Yes? With the little girlies who arrive on the doorstep. We are modelling that new paradigm. Yes? …And we carry that model with us wherever we go; we, we do not switch it off, but when we come together to work, we are simply more conscious of it.

Tony:
Certainly makes sense of that saying, “Acting, as if…” which I’ve always had problems with, but, um..

Menat:
Yes, well, you’ve done it extremely well whether you realise it or not.

Tony:
[Lowered voice] I haven’t, but, uh-

Menat:
You mean you’re arguing with me?!
[Laughter]

Tony:
Absolutely not… I see you are wearing the Dragon though. [Referring to headset Deborah was wearing; Dragon being the name of the voice recognition software.]

Menat:
I can’t get too much stuff around my neck.

Tony:
[Laughter] That is true. Anyway, no, I’m not arguing with you. ‘Cos you make me think, for example, of [one of/why] my original catalyst[s] I think in my thinking and my psychic development, what-have-you, this wonderful man called Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. And, um, who really had the most important impact on me, in 1957 or 8 or 9 or something like that. And this follows his, all his-, when you were saying about consciousness being the evolutionary, um, point, the [?] that was happening that we’ve been in for quite a long time and this fits perfectly into that. Reminds me of, of him, and I’m very thankful to him.

Menat:
So, Rick, are you happy? – That you are going to be a carrier wave?

Rick:
Yes, yes. I kind of, you know… soul’s purpose, and all that. One came in for actual, certain reasons and this sounds one of them. Can I just mention, also, that historically it fascinates me that the whole monastic movement kind of grew out of hermits in [Egypt] who liked to live in the desert, completely solitary. Like, get away from everyone, DO pure. And people who visited were so impressed by their pureness that that spawned the whole monastic movement in Western Europe, that kind of lasted 500 years and was just the most wonderful balance to the rest of guffaw that was going on. So, from little things, big things can grow.

Menat:
They certainly can. And, uh… maybe we could, maybe we could use the word stillness, rather than pureness. Because this is what they were seeking. Uh, a place where they could become still enough within themselves to begin to undo the conditioning placed upon their minds and their hearts and their emotions. Yes? And of course their task was, uh, significantly more challenging than, than perhaps the task now where at least, um, there are tools available, um, which, which in, in, in this time frame, such as modern psychology, uh, transpersonal psychology and psychotherapy, the, um, dissemination of energetic principles that have hitherto been kept secret. Um, they, they had to step right outside of the society they were in. Yes?

…So that movement was very vital and necessary in those historical periods; and many of you here present know that you kind of have this on your record, except that now, the biggest challenge is to bring that back in to the community. Yes? To bring all that you have learned back to your brothers and sisters.

Now that is, uh, that is no mean task. It can, it can reach a point and, uh, and I know I have discussed this before with, uh, with others of you where a monastic life is the easy option. Yes? The challenge after a certain point, the challenge after withdrawal, is then, “Right, how do I go back and keep this whole, this that I have found?” Yes? “How do I take this wholeness back to those who are fractured, and disintegrated? How do I take it back and be with them and dwell with them and maintain this, even then?” Yes?

And, and, and more than that, invite them, begin the process of inviting them, to want to find out willingly and joyfully ‘how I did it’ and make the journey themselves. Yes? So, in a collective sense, this is what we’re coming together to do. Except, we have all, we have all journeyed independently; we are now coming together as a group. Each seated in our own authority and our own differences, but united by respect for those differences. We don’t all have to believe the same thing to sit in this circle… But what we do have to acknowledge is each individual’s right to believe what works for them. Yes?

So, if you had been a monk coming through Christian hermitage, and a monk coming through, say, Buddhist hermitage, and you came and sat down together and started to argue about whose way was the right way we, would know neither of you had achieved enlightenment. Yes?… Because it’s enlightenment, the realisation of one’s universal humanity that is the only important thing.

Do we have any other questions or comments?

Rick:
One- one sort of teacher I know says that the special thing about being human, about being incarnate on the Earth, is that you can do all aspects available, kind of, within reality. Someone can visit one’s Angelic body or one’s… Elfin body, or you can do all… all available bodies. And when you’re back in spirit, um, choices aren’t as wide as they are when we’re actually physically human. Am I correct there?

Menat:
Well, that depends how you look at it.

From one way of looking at it, it is far, far more limited to occupy… physical incarnation. Um, what- uh, one cannot travel instantly simply as a matter of thought, for example. One cannot think I want to visit- I’m visiting Mars, and be there.

Rick:
But one can take one’s awareness there.

Menat:
One can take one’s awareness there and… in that sense, one is free to go wherever one wishes. But there is um… …it is important, in terms of the understanding of the human psyche, to realise that… human beings can get lost, human beings can get lost in other realms. Yes?

And… in these cases we have of, say, psychosis or schizophrenia where this, this person has lost touch with the reality of their incarnate existence. Yes? And, and so we.. we have to… this is why all esoteric training focuses very much on grounding and structure. Yes? Because yes, potentially, it is possible for human consciousness to travel to all of these different realms, but you must not be attached to staying there; you must not have any ego issues bound up in the doing of it, and you must know how to get back. Yes?

Because if, if, if you are wanting… if you are investing any sense of ego and self within being able to do these things, then you are going to become unstuck. Yes?

Rick:
Yes.

Menat:
So, there are two halves to that equation… and the, the line between, um, uh, uh… ‘psychism’ and psychosis is, uh, is a fine one sometimes. And as I said many, many times before, it is entirely unnecessary. One may become a fully realised universal human being without any of the party tricks. Yes? They can be, and very often are, a side product of the journey, but if they become the main event, that’s when people become unstuck. Yes? Does that make sense?

Rick:
Yeah, I think so, yes. Thank you.

Tony:
I have a final thing, if that’s OK, Menat.  Um, when we started, we were inviting our friends in, our friends in spirit. I asked my brother to… I wanted to connect… [stalling…]

Menat:
-Allow yourself to feel the feeling. Please.

Tony:
Yeah.. I’m feeling alright. It was unexpected. Um, it’s just that, uh, I see the group itself which is [inaudible] physical form, and whoever else might come in, but also, I love the idea of my brother being part of this.

Menat:
Then invite him!

Tony:
I am, I am.

Menat:
And let yourself feel the connection.

Tony:
Mm. Because, I mean, this applies to all of us, that, uh, there can be much also more extensive, um, with the loving help from spirit. Um, anyway…

Menat:
So can you allow your brother?

Tony:
Oh, yes, I, I asked, I asked him to come in the first time I had the, um, whatever it may be – courage – to make that sort of reaching out. Um, this is the first time. And he was a very great man; he is a very great soul. And his work was to do with honesty and integrity, he was part of Transparency [?]  International.

Menat:
Yes, he never realised that he was a spiritual being.

Tony:
[Laughter] No, but…

Menat:
He never realised, this is actually what we’re talking about. He got hung up on the mumbo-jumbo. He couldn’t get past that.

Tony:
He couldn’t but, but, but I think he made a choice that, um, for him to be able to function as he wanted to, he had to block that one out. But I think his intelligence- there’s no question he was intelligent enough to say, “OK.” Um… he will probably have woken up in surprise after, after his death. But um, but I can see nothing but good and wonder, and it would be wonderful to have his support and help in this. Thank you, Menat.

Menat:
So are we complete for today? Yes?

[General grateful consensus]

Are we happy? Are we coming willingly and joyfully?

All: Yes, thank you, etc.

Rick: As long as there’s cake. Oh, there’s cake, then I’m coming!

Menat:
Unconditional, Rick, cake or not!

Thank you, my beloveds.  Thank you for this interesting experiment; we will see what comes of it and we will talk again soon.

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 END.  Duration: 51 minutes.